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Labour is no longer a center-left party given their political choices and ways on handling the economy and shouldn’t be called as such. They are right wing neo/liberalists. OAngelo0 (talk) 10:55, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how these things work but would it be reasonable to stick to British English in an article specifically pertaining to a British subject? I always find it quite messy to have different dialects within the same page but when the subject is wholly British, it does seem like that would justify preferring one dialect over all others. NESMRTNOST (talk) 09:13, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It says at the top of this page that the article is written in British English, so feel free to make any changes necessary. Editors can choose any version of English they prefer for articles, but British English seems most appropriate for this one. TFD (talk) 10:10, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t really think that it’s right to call the Labour Party centre-left anymore, especially after the recent welfare reforms, and their move away from traditional social democratic tax and spend economics. I think it would be better to call them a centrist party 2A06:61C1:D433:0:21E7:8023:136B:20F4 (talk) 00:35, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I agree, I believe you will be hard pressed to find reliable, neutral, independent sources that characterise them as such. The Labour Party is hard to pin down as its ideology has changed a number of times over the past 15-20 years, and many good reliable sources still refer to the Labour Party when it held different beliefs than it does now. Even in 2024 under Starmer, the Labour Party Rule Book still identifies the party as a "democratic socialist" party despite the actions its taken in government suggesting otherwise. I have never taken part in creating a page where I had to decide how to characterise a party on the political spectrum, so I'd be interested in hearing from more experienced members. At the end of the day, however, I believe it's just going to come down to finding those reliable sources. Ashleyisvegan (talk) 22:13, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I fully agree with you, but I'm not sure it counts as a permanent/ long term change in the fundamental principles of the party, or just the current leader / current affairs.
If there was a leadership contest tomorrow and Corbyn (or someone equally leftie) took over, the page would have to say Labour are left, and when you think about that it makes it a bit silly to just keep changing the definition and principles of Labour depending on current leadership and performance.
There is also the fact that if an entire country's politics shifts a fair way to the right, previously centre- right policies will become centre left. If all the other parties in the UK were explicitly pro-Nazi, anti-progressive or neo-fascist, current Labour would quite definitely be left wing, comparatively.
I think the page on Starmers premiership has more about the policies and leanings of current Labour, and there's possibly an argument to split 'Labour' and 'New Labour', but other than that I don't see a fair way to amend the definition of Labour itself without getting revisionist and potentially a live leaning-tracker of the party with every change.
The party is still centre-left. Other centre-left parties have the same economic policy. We don't change it for them, so we won't for Labour. Fourinmybarn (talk) 11:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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